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Old 12-08-2007, 08:21 AM   #1
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Well for the past week our toilet flush has been slow. Anyone had experience in this department? We've owned our home for 3 years now and this is a 1st for us!
We are wondering if maybe we should get a snake (?) and try that or just chalk it up and call and pay for a plumber (that we really can not afford right now).
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Old 12-08-2007, 08:29 AM   #2
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You could try a snake to check for clogs, but you may also want to check the septic tank and see if it needs to be pumped. Septic tanks should be pumped out every 4-6 years (according to our septic guy) depending on use and size. Do you have a cover that can be taken off and check to see how full it is? We had to have ours pumped over the summer and it cost about $300. But, I wouldn't let it go long. You don't want the system to back up into the house!
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Something else you can check is the vent stack. If a bird has built a nest in it, it can cause the system to be slow.
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Old 12-08-2007, 08:52 AM   #4
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Have you changed your toilet paper? Our toilet gets clogged and a slow flush when we use certain paper, it never fails to get clogged on the target brand and cottenelle for some reason...

maybe it could tide you over til you can get a plumber in.

BTW those snake things are nasty and messy... when my dh used one...
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Old 12-08-2007, 08:54 AM   #5
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We Have never had any luck with snakes. They are cheap though - so its Not that much of a loss if it doesn't work.

Do you have a Septic System , or public Sewer?
I know You said septic question

Anyway - if you have a septic system - Yes they Definatly need to be pumped every 4 yrs.

If not they can run into Big Bucks to Repair. - My Parents dealt with all this

If it is just a toilet problem -
There might be something stuck in the toilet that is clogging it up.

Sometimes The whole toilet needs to Be removed to try and Find the clog.
My Dh has done this and it is a Project - and a pain in the butt
You have to be really careful with Plumbing and Know Something about it - or Don't Hesitate to call a Plumber.
Problems Could get a- lot worse!
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Old 12-08-2007, 09:21 AM   #6
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Is it just the toilet, or are other things slow too - bath drain, sink drain? If it's just the toilet, I wouldn't think it's the septic system yet, usually if there is a bind up, everything behind the bind up tends to slow down.

*IF* you or DH is mechanically inclined, good at directions, and patient, removing and replacing a toilet is not hard. It's smelly, and gross, but not hard. There may be a plug in the trap of it that needs to be cleared. I've pulled toilets before-if you do pull it, you do want to get a new wax ring (cheap) to ensure a good seal.

I personally don't like snakes - they damage porcelain and some pipes really easily. I've used one before, and blown right through an old pipe, and had to rush at midnight to a 24 hour store to get all new plumbing and repair it.

One BIG thing I've learned - the absolute bane of plumbing systems is......tampons. If you or the women/girls in your household use them, you may want to consider wrapping and disposing them. I first got my taste of their problem when renting a house - I didn't use them but my roommate did, and EVERYTHING in the house drained slow one time. I used every drain clog known to man, that danged snake (busted the kitchen sink drain), everything. Finally had a plumber out, and close to the join in the sewer, there was a huge mass of them, effectively blocking everything. It was incredibly gross, and he suggested to never flush them - he had to clear them out more than anything else ever. If your system is in perfect condition, they can flush, but once tree roots grow in, and snags in the pipe show up, or anything, guess what - "white mice" city. They also do NOT degrade well - if you have a septic system in your yard, they will eventually cause problems there as well.

How to remove/replace a toilet:
How to Remove and Replace a Toilet | DoItYourself.com
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Old 12-08-2007, 01:49 PM   #7
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Wow! Thanks booker!! That's great advice. See I knew someone on here (as gross as it is) would have some knowledge and experience in this field. At least one member has experience/knowledge in everything that's posted, part of why I love it here so much!!
I will pass this info on to dh. He is NOT plumber material but is mechanically inclined and can follow directions and take things apart and put back together so I hope he will give it a try!
I know all about the tampon disposal from our last rental house, kinda the same thing as your story (not as bad though!) So when we bought our house, I knew not to do it, but in public I will throw it in the toilet.
Oh and everything else is NOT slow, just the toilet. dd put some cat food in it that she had spilled and after 5 flushes it never went down!!
Thanks everyone!!!!
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Old 12-08-2007, 01:56 PM   #8
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If you have lived there three years and never had your septic tank pumped, I would HIGHLY recommend doing it. If you are not the first owner, you probably don't know when the last time it was pumped was.

We had been here six years before we had it pumped (it is only a 7 year old house so I am sure that was the first time) and that was too long. No damage, but we didn't realize we were "pushing it".

Once it was pumped it worked much faster. It cost $200, but was worth it. Damage from a septic buildup would have been much more costly AND messy!
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Nope removing a toilet isen't hard , My Dh had to do it today!!

I do remember in our old townhouse , We had to have a Plumber come out - due to a Clogged toilet. It was Tampons from the previous owner.
We had Public water - and the Plumber told us To NEVER put anything other than ( obviously) Bodily Functions and Toilet paper into the toilet.
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Cat food can really swell when it absorbs water. I would start with a plunger - just to see if that helps. Use a plunger designed for a toilet to get a good seal.

Also, before you remove the toilet, do make sure it is the drain pipe that is clogged. It is far easier to check everything else - including the vent. Also check to make sure the tank is filling properly. Something as simply as someone turning the valve on the water line to the tank can cause a sluggish flush.

Does the water back up then go down? Then there is probably a clog somewhere - the vent or the drain.
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