I have one sibling, a brother who is 5 years older than myself.

We get along fairly well most of the time, especially since he lives a few states away.

Anyways, he calls me this morning and we chat away for a while. We then have the conversation wind around to church. HE mentions it, not me. He asks if I still attend the Baptist churc, and I said yes. He then asks if we have become members, and I say no, not yet. Being baptist, they require having been baptized as a membership criteria, and my DH hasn't been yet.
My brother then starts in about how it is "unscriptual" according to him to baptize by water.

Note: he got trained many years ago religiously by a cult that my family was involved in, and the whole no water baptism thing was one of their mantras.
I never got into this cult.

So, I begin explaining to him my personal belief on the issue, in a friendly debate. He gets all crappy with me and huffy. When I call him on his attitude, he hangs up on me.

I am just so p'od at him for that. How childish are you to begin a discussion on a topic, and when you are proven that your stance is incorrect, hang up on someone. Teenage girls do that crap, 40+ year old men shouldn't.

I just needed to vent to someone, sorry about the long post.

The kick of it is, now he will call my mom and whine to her that I was a b***h on the phone to him and she will chew my butt over it. Then I will have to argue with her about what the truth is.



Rephrase:

He was quoting scripture to me, and I looked it up, and told him he was wrong, it actually said "blah" not what he was quoting....that was when he became made....

I don't give a hill of beans if he believes in baptism, socialism. or tree-ism.

And my mother will listen to him say that I "attacked" him with lies and such(even to the point of acting like I called him or what have you), and she will yell at me that I should be nice to my brother and such.

Then I will have to explain to her the whole thing as to what really happened, not his version of what happened

I do agree it was immature of him to hang up. The only point I would make is that you say you "proved" to him that he was incorrect and you fear you'll have to argue with your mother about what the "truth" is. I think you should try to realize that that is YOUR truth, but not theirs. I would think to keep family peace it would be better if each side let the other believe what they want. So I'd just say "I have my beliefs and you are welcome to have yours". Then drop it. I'm just afraid people won't appreciate all your "proving" the truth to them.

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I edited my first post to clarify what I meant.

I have no intention to "prove" or disprove his beliefs. I only showed him that he needs to be more careful in what he quotes, for he was wrong.

I have learn that there are beliefs that once people make up their mind about, they normally won't change no matter what.

And that is religion, political and football

If your mom calls you, tell her that all you have to say is that the whole thing got blown out of proportion, and you rather just have it stay between you and your brother. Don't defend yourself to her, nor talk about your brother to her.

And the next time, when he brings it up, either tell him that you really rather not talk about your beliefs. But rather just have a nice relaxing talk with him.

Best not to discuss religion w/ family - believe me on that one!

Also, there are so many biblical translations, it is nearly impossible to look one up and tell someone else that their quote is wrong, as they might be referring to a completely different version. Unless you both are in agreement as to which bible you are quoting, let alone the zillions of different ways someone can interpret the same quote, it's a pretty impossible argument.

I remember my dad going on about my sister being a heathen because she is Unitarian & they do not believe in the trinity or baptism. And my other sister never went to church or had her kids baptised - they are heathens too. All it did was cause a lot of infighting. I hate church, my dad hates church, he knows I don't go & he's fine with it. He just doesn't know I'm an atheist because I don't talk about it w/ him. So, here he's calling my church-going sister a heathen but he doesn't know jack about me!

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The next time he brings it up I would just politely say since it isn't a salvation issue we'll just have to agree to disagree. Then refuse to discuss it any more.

But it would chap me that he brought the issue up, acted liked a baby, then called your mom to complain. I don't know how I would handle that.

Actually, I should have changed the subject when he got started. I do know better with him He is the person whom I have heard say on more than one occasion "I may not always be right, but I am NEVER wrong." I have also NEVER heard him say the words "I'm sorry." in my life. And he wonders why he is on his 3rd marriage...

Anyways, in a week or so, he will facebook me with some dumb joke. That is is his way of saying "I was a butt, lets just forget it."

We have had these type of arguements before. The kicker of it is, we argue because he is stating something is factual, and I am asking him "what?" no its not.

I need to learn to shut up when it comes to his soapbox speels...., LOL