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Old 07-25-2006, 08:06 AM   #101
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Quote[/b] (itstinkerbelle @ July 25 2006,08:39)]Merry Meet All,
I never ment to start any trouble here.. I am truly sorry. I should not have said " Its your ####, you burn in it"
I never ment that as a statement dirrected at anyone... All I ment was that The devil and #### was created belief by Christian churches Centuries ago as a way to scare its people.. Therefore as I do not believe in either, I can not go to a place that I believe dose not exist... But again I am very sorry if I upset anyone, that was never my intention...
I did not try to explain my religion ,I posted links so you could read about it and draw your own conclusions...
I am NOT EVIL, I do NOT practise BLACK magic... I do NOT harm ...I HELP whenever I can....
I do not Try to change anyones beliefs.......
I have no need for people to JOIN in my belief's.....
I know who I am and I am HAPPY....
I am Happy to answer questions or post a link for information...
I am NOT DEMONIC... The DEVIL dose NOT exist for me, therefore anything DEMONIC dose NOT exist either...
Please, I am NOT saying all this to upset anyone, I deeply RESPECT your belief's and your GOD, I have Your GOD in my home, he is very welcome here....
I celibrate YULE and Christmas *, I LOVE them both....
I have been to Catholic church, and have great respect for that Holy place... The celings did not fall down when I entered....
I dont know what else I can say, I am sorry...
If you do not want me here, it's OK, I will stay away....
If any need help , I Light candles and Pray also....sending Energy's to help with the problem's or pain's..

Thank you for alowing me time here.. I enjoyed this forum...
I truly never ment to offend...
In your service...
Brightest Blessings to All.
Tink,

I am just getting in on this and have not read through all of the posts.

Please do not leave do not leave on account of a few. Most of us are respectful toward other's beliefs; however, there are some on this board who are less tolerant.

I am Catholic; my cousin is a Wiccan. I have great respect for your belief system and find that you are eloquent and sincere.

Again, please do not leave.

And Kemtee... you pose thoughtful questions and only wish to increase your knowledge. If only everyone could be as open minded, then we wouldn't have all of this drama. We need to think.

We need to examine, critically, what we think and why. And knowledge of other belief systems can only strengthen our own; if it makes us question our faith - well, then maybe our faith isn't as strong as we think it is.
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Old 07-25-2006, 10:00 AM   #102
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Tink,

You sound like a very sweet and loving person. You have no reason to apoligize or be sorry for your beliefs. Please don't leave because of this, you would be missed.
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Old 07-25-2006, 10:10 AM   #103
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I want to stay, I really enjoy this forum...You all have been very nice..
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Old 07-25-2006, 10:35 AM   #104
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Tink - you've no need to apologize. You've done nothing to apologize for. And I understood what you were trying to say with the "it's you're xxx - burn in it" comment. You can't go somewhere that doesn't exist for you any more than I can!
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Quote[/b] (calimari @ July 25 2006,11:35)]Tink - you've no need to apologize. You've done nothing to apologize for. And I understood what you were trying to say with the "it's you're xxx - burn in it" comment. You can't go somewhere that doesn't exist for you any more than I can!
I thought that was clever.
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Quote[/b] ]No one has all the answers. No one. Man is not perfect, and man himself has corrupted the answers -- assuming that he ever had them -- over time. Holy cripes, y'all, isn't that why there are still wars in the world? Why there have been atrocities committed all throughout history? Have we learned nothing from the Inquisition? The Holocaust? What's happening in Sudan? Israel? Iran? China? Don't you get it? When someone starts this ONLY PATH business is when it all gets out of hand.

Don't tell me to look at the intent, not the words. Words mean something. That's something we've gotten too far away from in this country. That anyone can erase anything by offering some half-hearted "well, I really didn't mean it that way." Baloney. The words escape not of their own volition -- you put them out there. Which means that the thoughts came from you. Own your business like an adult instead of trying to cover your butt afterwards. Think before you speak. The intent IS the words.

Tolerance is born of understanding. When you choose to misunderstand, or to remain ignorant of others' beliefs and lifestyles, you foment -- purposely -- hatred. Does the word "witch" go against what the more fundamentalist Christians have been taught? Certainly, if they choose to focus solely on that. Do they choose to understand and learn exactly what it encompasses? No. They condemn and issue their warnings, without even knowing what in Hades they're speaking about. Yet the rest of us are called to censure for Christian-bashing.
Well said, Kel.

Don't be sorry for starting the post either and please don't hide interesting topics with PMs. I learned a lot from this one, aside from the drama. This should have been just a nice discussion, but when do things ever go as they should...
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Old 07-25-2006, 12:27 PM   #107
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Just caught up with this thread. I was wondering what was so interesting about the Wiccna religion that the thread is 11 pages long! Boy what a read.

I have been in this forum a lot and have never been flamed like tink was, and it was flaming, no suggering it up, that was somebody judging Tink and without reading about her religion, just plain syaing it is wrong and demonic!

I appreciate Kemtee asking about Wiccan religion, I learned a lot and my sterotype of witches was killed by going to the website and reading what witches are and what they do. If anybody remembers I think it was Kemtee who asked Lou about her ba'ath religion too.
As for Melanies warning about it being dangerous, yes it is, but we didnt ask her to give us spells, we just asked for more information. I would never try to performe the spells on the websites Tink told us about, becasue I am not learned in her religion.

I do find some ladies on this board (not generalizing) come out fighting and criticizing ebfore they read and think. It seems that right away the shutters come down over the eyes and they will not look at it and aknowledge it. This is not right and not fair. I have been given respect while having a "different" religion, which as you all know is not very popular in the USA these days (LOL) so i think we should give Tink the same respect.

Tink, you did nothing wrong, you seem like a nice person, I was also frekaed out when you said you have grandkids, i was born in 1978, same as your kids, you should post more about yourself, hobbies, job, wheat part of the US you are from.
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I am in CT. I am an "OLD " witch! *

This is me...
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I feel like I am 20!!!!
I am raising two beautiful little girls Emmy is 1 and Adriana is 2 (she will be 3 on the 29th)
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I had one sister, she died at 22 yrs. old, from Hodgkins lymphoma at home.Probably the hardest thing I ever did was zip up her body bag when they took her....
I have two son's and a daughter, my Daughter goes to Church every Sunday... Thats their choise, I never MADE my children be what I am, I showed them But the choice to learn and find your own path is always your's...
I married in 1973... BIGGEST mistake I ever made!!! 27 yrs. later... I woke up!!!
I am now married to a wonderful kind and gental man that loves me unconditionally, we have never had an arguement... I have never heard him raise his voice!
We are adopting MY grandchildren.. and he loves them dearly.
I gave up my job, I am a retail manager, because he told me to stay home with the girls they need me to....
I like to read, I love to garden and watch things I planted grow.. I like to sit at the crack of darkness and watch the sky and listen to all the sounds around me, its amazing, try it one evening!..I LOVE LOVE to SHOP!!!!If its on SALE its MINE!!!!LOL
I get myself into trouble on E BAY!!!! I buy so much I forget what I bought!!!
once I got Three copy's of the same BOOK!!!!
I love children, Most people make me sick!
My thery on raising my kids used to be.....
*If the kids are still alive when hubby gets home from work...
I'VE done my job!" *
I will post more later, girls just woke up from nap!!! Both YELLING!!!!
anyone trading MUZZLES??? * LOL.
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Old 07-25-2006, 01:16 PM   #109
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Tink, you are certainly a person with whom I could spend many an hour rocking in the chairs on my front porch and talking. If you are ever in central VA, let me know. I'd love to meet you!
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Ok everyone its time I got serious as Mod of this board Im going to lock down this thread for these reasons.

I posted seperately that I asked that we all post as passionately as we like ABOUT the topics started not the personalities.

This board is useless in my opinion if strong opinions held are not mentioned and double useless if issues passive and controversial cant be explored.

Im going to say from my limited knowlege so excuse me here Wiccans and or white witch is not demonic magic.

If we dont like, agree, are afraid, of an issue dont respond

Kellys question was on a point of interest not just to her but to those of us who want to expand our knowledge of the world, that doesnt mean we need to acccept or follow and join. It just is, a point of information.

I wont have anyone disrespected on my watch Ultra Christians or none and since I dont want to lose anyone from Melanie, to Alicia and tink, and I dont want anyone particualrly you Kelly from deciding to stop asking question this thread is locked down

Now if someone doesnt like my choice feel free to pm Kim I feel this has gone on long enough and has deviated from an exploration of tinks beliefs into something else

There are still a few more questions people may have for tink and if they do please post again under another thread heading and possibly we can start again

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