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Old 09-26-2006, 10:14 PM   #11
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just one more way to explain.....someone once told me to think of the trinity like water/ice/ steam. They are all the same thing....just in different forms. When my DD was asking how the whole trinity worked....this explaination seemed easy enough for her to understand.
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I believe differently. I believe that God(Heavenly Father) and Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost(or Holy Spirit) are three different personages, not the same one. I believe God sent his son, so Christ was on earth and Heavenly Father was in Heaven and I guess the Holy Ghost was floating around somewhere! Are belive they are made "one" in that Christ's will is the same as the Father's will and they work towards the same goal(? end?) Kinda like my husband and I are one because we are unified on everything(well almost!) but we are still to seperate people. Anyway, that's my belief.
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:47 AM   #13
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I believe differently. I believe that God(Heavenly Father) and Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost(or Holy Spirit) are three different personages, not the same one. I believe God sent his son, so Christ was on earth and Heavenly Father was in Heaven and I guess the Holy Ghost was floating around somewhere! Are belive they are made "one" in that Christ's will is the same as the Father's will and they work towards the same goal(? end?) Kinda like my husband and I are one because we are unified on everything(well almost!) but we are still to seperate people. Anyway, that's my belief.
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This is what I always thought too. It always pained me to think that God could send his son and let him go through such a terrible ordeal. It was my belief that he did this so that we could then go to heaven because Jesus died for our sins and if he didn't that wouldn't have been possible. But, in the back of my mind, I always wondered why couldn't we if we believed in God himself. I understand that Jesus was sent to spread the word of God and through that knowlege we are given entrance to heaven. I can also understand why Muslems believe that Jesus was a profet, here to spread the word.

It would take some of the "pain" I feel about Jesus suffering on the cross to know that God wouldn't allow this to happen to his son intentionally, but allowed it to himself, from the idea that God, the son, and the holy spirit are all the same. I have a very soft heart and I tend to personfiy things, so to think of a father with the ability to save his son from with the wave of his hand and not doing it, even though it would be for the betterment of mankind, bothers me. (I also have issue with the lambs blood on the doors too, but that's another story...)

Anyway, thank you so much for clarifying the view that they are one in them same. More to ponder....
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:06 PM   #14
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"I have a very soft heart and I tend to personfiy things, so to think of a father with the ability to save his son from with the wave of his hand and not doing it, even though it would be for the betterment of mankind, bothers me."
JI guess it's different for me because I believe that we are ALL sons and daughters of God, that Jesus is God's first born and that He volenteered to take upon himself the sins of the world to help all the rest of us so we could live with God again. I hope that makes sence.
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:43 PM   #15
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The Trinity is a tough one to wrap your head around. The way it works for me is this - In Matthew 22:37 it says, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind." So basically that means with all that you are. Since we are made in God's image, we are like little trinities ourselves.

the heart = our physical body = Jesus
the soul = that which gives our bodies life = God
the mind = intelligence, which we use to guide our actions = Holy Spirit

Take away any one of them and you cease to be the unique "you."

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