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09-18-2007, 04:12 PM
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Needy Product Networker
Last Online: Today 07:02 PM
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ze dezert
Real Name: puddin' tame
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Their monthly payment is outrageous for the amount they actually needed!
We try to be fairly educated about things like this, but the traps are so attractive. We were recently considering refinancing and taking some cash for improvements on the house. DH shopped around and gave me a couple of offers, one he was really excited about. I knew it didn't really make sense and checked into it. What a crock it was. Even if there were no fees, it wouldn't have been worth it.
Then, he called me excited about a quote and preliminary approval he got from ETrade. He uses them for other things and considered them reputable. He gave me an interest rate that sounded good. The person even called our home and left the rate on the recording. However, I asked him to get the info in writing. Sure enough, when we got the email, it had a different rate - one that SOUNDED like the one quoted (we listened again, and had not made a mistake). DH contacted the rep who confirmed the higher rate, "Because we saw other things that justified the higher rate." What? What would change? Then we got the form that shoes all the charges and fees. What a HUGE joke. There were more junk fees in that than a brokerage house! It was hilarious! DH questioned it and was told by the rep (we'd already decided not to do this at all because the rate would have been higher than the original rate that we already paid), "Oh, well that won't necessarily pertain to you, as we have movement on that. We just have to disclose it." Right.
So, we told them we are officially withdrawing the application, as their terms were not satisfactory. About two weeks later, we got an envelope in the mail from them. Readable in the window of the letter, so the mailman could see, was, "Letter of credit declination." What? We'd been approved already. So I opened it. The letter was entitled that, but of course, they list reasons a person could be declined. However, there was only one box checked off for us. Yep, "Applicant withdrew application." Needless to say, ETrade will never be a choice for us and my dh is moving his other business away from them.
The reps always make it sound so rosy. People are so busy today, and by the time approvals are done, they are so set on where the money is going, or excited by what it's buying, they agree to everything, and the brokers know it.
There was one a few years ago that started with a decent rate, but still an adjustable. However, the broker tried to tell us it would be very easy to refi out of it to a fixed before the rates went up too much. Well, refi means the original loan gets paid off and closed out, right? What wasn't discussed, is what I found in the fine print: the early payoff fees more than made up for any savings we would have had. It would have hurt a lot to refi.
No thank you.
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