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Old 08-01-2006, 08:18 AM   #31
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I can't believe the whole family has forgiven him and visits him every week! If my dh killed my kids I sure wouldn't be letting my other kids see him and I sure wouldn't forgive him! He's lucky if he makes it to prison!
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:43 AM   #32
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I have to admit I would probably be on death row instead of him, because I would have killed him myself. ZERO tolerence for child abuse and child killing.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:09 PM   #33
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:50 PM   #34
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How sad. When they were trying to find the right medication to treat my mom's mental illness they were quickly switching her from one med to another. I believe they quickly took her off of Prozac and put her Paxil with no weaning or transition. It caused her to go completely off the deep end. One day she just stormed out the door and took a very long walk. When she came back she told all of us that we were lucky to be alive because she was seconds from murdering all of us...which is why she took the walk. Needless to say we returned her to the mental ward of the hospital so they could tweak her meds while she was being supervised. It is so sad that people fear getting mental help when they need it.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:39 PM   #35
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I am not excusing what he did but I know the wrong meds can make you think & do things out of the norm. I was suffering from depression after a miscarriage and the meds made things worse. I was working a receiving line using a box cutter. The thought came to mind to run the blade up my arm and then cut the next person to come into the room. I immediately tossed the box cutter and ran for help. That man should have done likewise and called 911. The Mom should never have left her husband alone with the kids knowing he was mentally ill. Did she learn nothing from the case where the mom drowned her boys in the tub due to similar circumstances?
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:57 AM   #36
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:51 AM   #37
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True there is no excuse at all......I really don't see how the wife can stand by him...I couldn't and my dh was severely depressed, but I made sure to always be with him and made sure he got the proper help. People with depression say its like they are living in a fog and many people do have psychotic episodes because of it. I agree the wife never should have left him with her kids, and definately needed to pay better attention to him and his depression......this whole story is sooo sad and to think those little girls had to pay for their father not getting the proper help
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:28 PM   #38
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I know what it is like to go through depression and I myself have had terrible thoughts creep into my head mostly of hurting myself. Especially after I had my youngest I had severe PPD. So, I sympathize with that aspect, but honestly you can train yourself to not entertain evil thoughts. If you sit there and entertain them than eventually you will feel to act on them especially if your mind is in such a weakened state to begin with. So, I don't understand why he thinks this is an excuse to murder his beautiful children. The thing is, even after you do an evil act the thoughts will more than likely get worse not better. He just gave in to darkness instead of fighting against it. I prayed, prayed, prayed and the thoughts went away and I got better. I am glad he is repenting so to speak at least for the media. I think that forgiveness would take a lot longer than it took his family so it kind of makes me wonder what was really going on (maybe he was abusive or something). But, it is a terrible situation for everyone involved and I have a bit of empathy for that. The fact is no one would really know what you would do unless you were in their shoes. I am talking more about the family than the accused though. I know I wouldn't murder my children for any reason and I am sure most folks on here would fight the darkness for at least that. I love my family very much and I fight every day to be the best parent I can be. I go through days where I want to cry and not do anything that I normally enjoy. I keep on fighting with God's help and each time he rescues me.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:47 PM   #39
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Amber, if you read the article the guy says that he was always able to control those thoughts when they came in previously. You say you understand because you went through it, but you were able to "train" yourself not to give in. Perhaps your depression just wasn't as bad as his became?

You say "I don't understand why he thinks this is an excuse to murder his beautiful children." He doesn't. He fully admits he did it, he is as taking full responsibility & not fighting incarceration, he is not pleading not guilty by reason of insanity.

This is a horrible situation. I do not know that I could forgive, but they have apparently been together many years & have older children. Should those older children write off their dad who might have been a great dad until this illness overcame him?

We have seen mental illness in our family, and when someone you love gets hit with it (depression/ bi polar/ anorexia/ psychosis/ schizophrenia) you seek as much help as you can get for the one you love. Unfortunately, sometimes it takes a very long time to find the correct combination of therapy/meds to find the solution. There is no magic formula. The person might take their own life or do other harm in the meantime. They can seem FINE one day & not the next.

I think all the folks here who just indicate that he is evil/no excuse/throw away the key has never dealt with a loved one with mental illness and what a devastating thing it can be. Is what he did right? Of course not. But he was not right in the head. He is medicated now & taking full responsibility for what he did when he was not himself. I feel sad for the family & I admire that he is doing everything he can to not make it any harder for his family.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:02 PM   #40
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