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Old 06-27-2007, 10:11 AM   #1
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I know she makes her living off of being shocking, like so many people but man this woman sometimes should just stop! The following is a conversation between Ann Coulter and Elizabeth Edwards -- sometimes I'm just amazed at what people are willing to say. Rush often goes over the top (I remember when he was complaining about energy effcient washer and dryers) but even he has a little heart! And even Bill will stop at some point. But Ann Coulter just goes on and on.From NBC's Mark Murray and Domenico Montanaro
The wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards called into MSNBC’s “Hardball” on Tuesday to confront Ann Coulter on her personal attacks on her husband and family.

Coulter, the controversial conservative commentator, appeared on an outdoor set with host Chris Matthews -- and also with dozens of supporters and detractors waiting to ask questions. But there was another person waiting to pose a question to Coulter: Elizabeth Edwards.

According to an Edwards campaign aide, Elizabeth Edwards wanted to call into the show when she heard that Coulter would be taking questions, and she called a Hardball producer to get the phone number needed to dial into the show. The result is the exchange below:

Chris Matthews: You know who's on the line? Somebody to respond to what you said Edwards yesterday morning -- Elizabeth Edwards. She wanted to call in today we said she could. Elizabeth Edwards go on the line you're on the line with Ann Coulter

Elizabeth Edwards: Hello, Chris.

CM: You wanna say something directly to the person who's with me?

EE: I'm calling you … in the south when we -- when someone does something that displeases us, we wanna ask them politely to stop doing it. Uh - I'd like to ask Ann Coulter -- if she wants to debate on issues, on positions -- we certainly disagree with nearly everything she said on your show today -- um but uh it's quite another matter for these personal attacks that the things she has said over the years not just about John but about other candidates -- it lowers our political dialogue precisely at the time that we need to raise it. So I want to use the opportunity … to ask her politely stop the personal attacks.

Ann Coulter: OK, so I made a joke -- let's see six months ago -- and as you point out they've been raising money off of it for six months since then.

CM: This is yesterday morning, what you said about him.

AC: I didn't say anything about him actually either time.

EE: Ann, you know that's not true. And once more its been going on for sometime.

AC: I don't mind you trying to raise money. I mean it's better this than giving $50,000 speeches to the poor.

EE: I'm asking you

AC: Just to use my name on the Web pages…

EE: I'm asking you politely…

AC: … but as for a debate with me, um yeah, sure. Yeah, we'll have a debate

EE: I'm asking you politely to stop personal attacks.

AC: How bout you stop raising money on the Web page then?

EE: It didn't start it did not

AC: No you don't have cause I don't mind

EE: It did not start with that you had a column a number of years ago

AC: OK, great the wife of a presidential candidate is calling in asking me to stop speaking

CM: Let her finish the point...

AC: You're asking me to stop speaking stop writing your columns, stop writing your books.

CM: OK, Ann. Please.

AC: OK

EE: You wrote a column a couple years ago which made fun of the moment of Charlie Dean's death, and suggested that my husband had a bumper sticker on the back of his car that said ask me about my dead son. This is not legitimate political dialogue.

AC: That's now three years ago

EE: It debases political dialogue. It drives people away from the process. We can't have a debate about issues if you're using this kind of language.

AC: Yeah why isn't John Edwards making this call?

CM: Well do you want to respond and we'll end this conversation?

EE: I haven't talked to John about his call.

AC: This is just another attempt for –

EE: I'm making this call as a mother. I'm the mother of that boy who died. My children participate -- these young people behind you are the age of my children. You're asking them to participate in a dialogue that's based on hatefulness and ugliness instead of on the issues and I don't think that's serving them or this country very well.

APPLAUSE

CM: Thank you very much Elizabeth Edwards. Do you want to -- you have all the time in the world to respond.

AC: I think we heard all we need to hear. The wife of a presidential candidate is asking me to stop speaking. No.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:19 AM   #2
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Here's the You Tube Link
YouTube - Ann Coulter vs. Elizabeth Edwards
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:31 AM   #3
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I can't stand her either and the thing that bugs me the most is that she is a woman! I like to think we, as a gender, are smarter and more ethical than that. She's a disgrace.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:32 AM   #4
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I can't stand her either and the thing that bugs me the most is that she is a woman! I like to think we, as a gender, are smarter and more ethical than that. She's a disgrace.
I totally agree. Good job to Elizabeth Edwards for calling in to confront her & for not stooping to Coulter's level in the confrontation.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:53 AM   #5
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So Elizabeth Edwards was upset about a comment that Ann Coulter made about her deceased son? I really like Elizabeth Edwards. I think to make any remarks that are hurtful or negative about a child that is deceased is horrible. Ann Coulter needs to shut her mouth on this one.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:08 AM   #6
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I'm not a big Ann Coulter fan but Elizabeth Edwards bugs me more in this one. She trying to come across as a concerned mother and wife but it is just a carefully constructed exchange crafted by some political adviser. She didn't call on her own, but with permission, or more likely at the insistance, of someone else. And no one in politics can talk about personal attacks because they ALL do it. I kinda like Elizabeth Edwards but I HATE the whole act of pretending that personal attacks don't happen on her end.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:13 PM   #7
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But I still say to make comments about the Edwards' son that was killed - I am sorry but that is way out of line.
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Old 06-27-2007, 01:38 PM   #8
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I am what I consider a moderate Republican. Ann Coulter is so over the top in insensitivity that she never fails to shock me. The end does not justify the means in any situation. She does not speak for a large number of Republicans.

I am also a Christian. If you hit someone over the head with the Bible (I call them Bible-beaters) you cannot have a decent conversation about God. The same goes for politics.

There are four type of people in this world with regards to politics and religion:

Closed conservatives (Ann Coulter would be an extreme example of this)
Open conservatives (will listen to the other viewpoint and weigh it carefully and adapt)
Open liberals (will listen to the other viewpoint and weigh it carefully and adapt)
Closed liberals (the liberal version of Ann Coulter)

Open conservatives and open liberals can have true dialogue and learn from each other (and adapt). Closed conservatives and closed liberals each think they are right and have the moral high ground. They cannot learn from each other or adapt.

Ann Coulter is not only a closed conservative. She is spiteful and ugly in the way she defends the extreme right. As an open conservative, I really wish she didn't exist. The only reason people like her have any voice is because of the closed conservatives/liberals. The liberals have their closed ugly voices too. (Michael Moore is a case in point.)
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well said. I agree with most of what u said. I do believe Moore is closer to Coulter in that regard, but I also think he plays to the entertainment value. His new movie is said to be more centric. I think Rosie is closer to Ann than Moore.

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Old 06-27-2007, 02:13 PM   #10
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Ann's probably a stripper at night time trying to pay for her meth habit. She's just cranky all the time and can't help it. Sorry I just don't have polite words right now, I can't stand that woman, so I stoop to immature levels to describe her.

Oh wait, OOPS!!! She's not a Stripper, the politically correct term is Exotic Dancer....my bad.
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