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10-16-2007, 07:09 PM
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Schwarzenegger Signs Sexual Indoctrination Bills
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10-16-2007, 07:23 PM
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Sorry, but that article is the most biased piece of crap I have read!
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10-16-2007, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Happymom
Sorry, but that article is the most biased piece of crap I have read!
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 BUT we're in Ohio, ds is in a Montessori school and imagine my surprise when he said he saw a picture in one of their books that showed two men getting married! He said one man had a wedding dress on! He gets mixed up some times so I'm wondering what he really saw, but he did say he questioned the teacher about it and she said that she had seen that picture before. I just said, "Oh they were just being silly" because I'm not going to start that kind of sex education on my ds at age 5! Later, of course. But hey he needs to be fully potty trained before I start the sex talks, thankyouverymuch!
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10-17-2007, 10:34 AM
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10-17-2007, 11:17 AM
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I read the text of the law and I saw nothing shocking. I didn't even note a radical change because the section defining 'person with a disability' wasn't even changed. All the bill does is have the other parts of the statute refer to one definition of who can't be discriminated against. It says ...
SEC. 11. Section 220 of the Education Code is amended to read:
220. No person shall be subjected to discrimination on the basis
of disability, gender, nationality, race or ethnicity, religion,
sexual orientation, or any other characteristic that is contained in
the definition of hate crimes set forth in Section 422.55 of the
Penal Code in any program or activity conducted by an educational
institution that receives, or benefits from, state financial
assistance or enrolls pupils who receive state student financial aid.
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
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10-17-2007, 12:09 PM
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This is a good article below. I hold true to my traditional value system and consider myself a republican and a Christian, I also think there need to be laws inacted to keep all people safe, but come on, where do we draw the line? Will everything just become a free for all? If gay marriage passes, then what next? Will children be allowed to marry? Maybe even animlas? How about plural marriages? Im serious here. If 20 or 30 years ago anyone would have said "in 20 or 30 years, our children will be taught in schools that its okay for boys to have sexual relations with boys and its okay for girls to have sexual relations with girls, and heck, you may even be able to marry someone of the same sex and have it be legal" we would have died! Im okay with people having their own sexual preference and dont judge them for that, but when it comes to promoting it, actually incorporating it into our public school cirriculum, and possibly change the deffinition of marriage, then Im sorry but it has gone way to far.
"Schwarzenegger signed a bill requiring all public school instruction and activities to promote and protect transsexuality, bisexuality and homosexuality to children as young as 5 years old.
The bill, which goes into effect Jan. 1, will force teachers to present a one-sided message about homosexuality, bisexuality and transgender issues. Further, it will ban lessons that present marriage solely between one man and one woman.
The governor also approved bills to end local oversight of school discrimination policies; change rights for domestic partners; and add even more special protection for homosexuals to state laws.
Though Schwarzenegger is opposed to same-sex "marriage," he stated in his veto letter that he still supports domestic-partnership rights and will continue to defend and enforce those rights."
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10-17-2007, 12:20 PM
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There doesn't seem to be anything in the bills that would force schools to promote any of the things that article claims it would do. It seems to me that they only prevent discrimination on those bases. What's wrong with that?
What is wrong, imo, are groups that claim to be about children and families when really all they are about is discrimination and hate and they publish such fear-mongering, extreme, dishonest articles. Why are these so-called "family" groups so interested in other people's sex lives?
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10-17-2007, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by daymom03
There doesn't seem to be anything in the bills that would force schools to promote any of the things that article claims it would do. It seems to me that they only prevent discrimination on those bases. What's wrong with that?
What is wrong, imo, are groups that claim to be about children and families when really all they are about is discrimination and hate and they publish such fear-mongering, extreme, dishonest articles. Why are these so-called "family" groups so interested in other people's sex lives?
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Daymom-I dont think its about hate and discrimination. I think its about protecting our kids from teaching such liberal cirriculum and promoting it. We should be able to teach our kids at home about homosexual behaviors and practices and with materials of our chosing. It shouldnt be forced upon them. Most parents teach their kids to be kind and nice to all people, regardless of their sexual orientation. I am one of them. I happen to LIVE in California and my kids GO to public schools so this bill really hits home for me.
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10-17-2007, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Finalscore2g3b
Daymom-I dont think its about hate and discrimination. I think its about protecting our kids from teaching such liberal cirriculum and promoting it. We should be able to teach our kids at home about homosexual behaviors and practices and with materials of our chosing. It shouldnt be forced upon them. Most parents teach their kids to be kind and nice to all people, regardless of their sexual orientation. I am one of them. I happen to LIVE in California and my kids GO to public schools so this bill really hits home for me.
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But doesn't the bill just say schools can't use materials that teach discrimination? It doesn't say that schools have to teach about these topics, does it?
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10-19-2007, 10:42 AM
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That article seems very biased to me. I have a problem with the word "Promote". Simply instructing/advising/teaching kids that people do practice "alternative lifestyles" is not "promoting" it. They are not saying "hey kids! Try this! Be the first on your block!" It is simply telling the kids the truth about differences in people. It also does nothing to diminish straight marriage. I have not read one single argument against gay marriage that makes any sense. How are my marriage vows altered or lessened by a gay couple choosing to make the same vows to each other? They are not.
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