Do you want "folksy" or "cocky" running our country? - Page 2

bonnotsm9 · 10-03-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt Disney Worlders

I am looking at it from a psychological view, I suppose. I have always looked at things much differently that many people. I am neither republican nor democratic -- so I am just figuring out the people that I will have to choose from in the November election. I am sure my culture, education and background is much different than many of yours. I am disappointed that the "folksy" newbie-part of Palin (with the winks & cheerleading and trying to provfe she is middle class with her large double income) are not helping women in the country rise to positions of power. I believe she is hindering the progress of generations of women in America today.

But that is my opinion of her as a public speaker. (Which is not a political opinion of her.)

Wow, that's kind of an elitist attitude and insulting to regular "middle class" women, imo.

Palin hasn't made any really major gaffes as far as I have noticed, although the folksy demeanor is overdone, imo. I think she had been told by the McCain campaign to do that.

When Biden was in our state a few weeks ago, he asked one of our state senators, Chuck Graham, to stand up and greet the crowd. Only one problem- Senator Graham has been confined to a wheelchair for well over a decade. That made me cringe. Surely Biden noticed he was in a wheelchair since he was on stage with him?

aliadam · 10-03-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bonnotsm9

Wow, that's kind of an elitist attitude and insulting to regular "middle class" women, imo.

I sincerely hope you weren't implying you were more educated or cultured than those of us who disagree with you. That would be very insulting.

MelodyRose · 10-03-2008, 11:23 AM

Sarah Palin didn't fool me one bit with her smug, doe-eyed, "I'm just not used to how you Washington insiders operate" statements last night. Maybe the distance has been there, but she's had her sleeves rolled up and has been elbow-deep in pork and such politics right with the rest of them. I had to roll my eyes every time she played the "I'm not like them" card. I think the "darn right"s and "heck no"s that she pulled out are a part of the facade that she's building up to fool people into feeling like she's one of us working folks living down here on Main St. I think she's deceptive and beguiling. And that's not even talking about her politics.

mommamia · 10-03-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt Disney Worlders

I am speaker about the feelings I get when she addresses a crowd. (Not with the issues she supports or doesn't support) These feelings are much like the feelings I got when GWB addressed crowds when he was running for office.

I currently live in a very religious, conservative, Republican area that all vote republican because of beliefs rooted in religion and tradition, not because they feel that person is necessarily the right person for the job.

I am looking at it from a psychological view, I suppose. I have always looked at things much differently that many people. I am neither republican nor democratic -- so I am just figuring out the people that I will have to choose from in the November election. I am sure my culture, education and background is much different than many of yours. I am disappointed that the "folksy" newbie-part of Palin (with the winks & cheerleading and trying to provfe she is middle class with her large double income) are not helping women in the country rise to positions of power. I believe she is hindering the progress of generations of women in America today.

But that is my opinion of her as a public speaker. (Which is not a political opinion of her.)

Well said! I do think people tend to fear breaking the status quo. It's really amazing what you see come out in people.

Starlite · 10-03-2008, 12:38 PM

I don't think Palin is cocky, but I'm not a fan of the little winks and cutesiness. Can you imagine how it would have looked if Biden had started winking at the camera?

Besides, when you're dealing with foreign leaders, you can't really wink your way out of a situation (or maybe you can, depending on the leader

).

calimari · 10-03-2008, 12:52 PM

No matter which side gets elected, I prefer my leaders to be eloquent. I can't stand listening to Bush because he cannot pronounce words correctly, he sounds like a frat boy trying to sound cool and casual.

Yesterday was the first time I heard Palin talk for any length of time, and I found her "folksy" approach to be condescending, artificial, and not appropriate for a world leader. I mean, can you imagine Margaret Thatcher talking like that? I don't want my world leader sounding like someone who might ask if I want fries with that.

Ronald Reagan - He knew how to speak like a world leader, a diplomat. Barack Obama has that same skill. Hillary did to a point. McCain kinda sorta almost does, but he has strange pauses in his speeches.

RPS78 · 10-03-2008, 01:29 PM

As ususal I agree with Calimari!!
Palin sounded nervous, she had a high pitched voice, which went lower at some times, but I think when she was thinking of something to say it went higher, sounded like a teenager's voice. I missed the winking, but I cannot beleive she would wink, this is the VP Debate, the whole of America and the world are watching, and you wink!!! that would really work with the Saudis' if you were ever negotiating with them!

bonnotsm9 · 10-03-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by calimari

Ronald Reagan - He knew how to speak like a world leader, a diplomat. Barack Obama has that same skill. Hillary did to a point. McCain kinda sorta almost does, but he has strange pauses in his speeches.

Obama does well as long as he has a prepared script. When I've heard him speak off the cuff, he stumbles and stutters or says something really stupid like the tire guage comment.

calimari · 10-03-2008, 02:29 PM

I didn't find the tire gauge comment stupid at all. Automotive & energy folks agreed with him on that. Here in Detroit, we were baffled as to why the republicans acted like that was a ridiculous thing to say.

Someone further up said this to the original poster:
"Wow, that's kind of an elitist attitude and insulting to regular "middle class" women, imo."

I have no idea what she means. I fail to understand what is elitist in the original posters' comments. And when did being a member of the elite stop being a good thing?

bonnotsm9 · 10-03-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by calimari

I didn't find the tire gauge comment stupid at all. Automotive & energy folks agreed with him on that. Here in Detroit, we were baffled as to why the republicans acted like that was a ridiculous thing to say.

It was ridiculous to assume that the average American was so ignorant that they weren't keeping their tires properly inflated. I've known to do that since I started driving. How is telling me to do something that I am already doing going to help solve the energy crisis? You'd have to be operating under the assumption that most Americans are too ignorant to check their tire pressure to actually believe his comments would have a significant effect on oil consumption is this country. That is really condescending.