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09-25-2007, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by booker81
What carlitasway said.
I looked in earlier, and figured that it would be a thread of why people believe in God, and talking about God. Ya know, supporting each other.
Instead, it was talking about other people/groups - namely people who were not followers of a Christian god. It was pretty condescending, and I thought rude. Then the personal attacks, some of which I really do feel you (Amber) did do - attack others. Not cool  It upset me, I thought about reporting it, but I didn't.
I didn't jump in, because I knew it was going to go bad, and bad fast. You cannot dis other people or talk down about them without peeving them off.
I would stay out of a thread (as a non-believer) that was about "why I believe in God" or "Hey everyone who is a new Christian, let's talk here", as long as that's what the thread is - talking about your God and learning and loving him. Talking about other people and putting them down is what turns a thread - and fast
I'm sorry that you've been upset, and that others have been. I hope everyone can find a way of agreement, and be able to either apologise or let bygones be bygones.

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I was not trying to put anyone down I was stating how there are good people who are Muslim and than a women got on a kick about how they are killers and on and on. I just was saying that yes there may be things that I don't agree with in other religions. My point was I may not agree with some of their beliefs and they may not agree with some of mine either. I did not say their whole religion was wrong because that is not for me to say, I don't think that anyway. Anybody that has a relationship with God and Jesus are saved.
If you read back, I told her a took a cultural diversity class which did not tell us that they were all killers and terrorists. I cannot be responsible for how others respond. I have relatives of all different religions and backgrounds and I love them all. So, I was not expecting someone to write a lengthy ode to why Muslim's are bad. I will not take responsibility for that, sorry.
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09-25-2007, 02:36 PM
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#22
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Mommysavers Goddess
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Originally Posted by carlitasway
And, Amber, I'm sorry for what I typed before I edited. It was very inappropriate and I should have been less impulsive.
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I am also sorry and I didn't mean to stoop to your level (at the time). I don't think you are always that brash or harsh.
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09-25-2007, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Amber03
I was not trying to put anyone down I was stating how there are good people who are Muslim and than a women got on a kick about how they are killers and on and on. I just was saying that yes there may be things that I don't agree with in other religions. My point was they may not agree with some of their beliefs and the may not agree with some of mine either. I did not say their whole religion was wrong because that is not for me to say, I I don't think that anyway.
If you read back, I told her a took a cultural diversity class which did not tell us that they were all killers and terrorists. I cannot be responsible for how others respond. I have relatives of all different religions and backgrounds and I love them all. So, I was not expecting someone to write a lengthy ode to why Muslim's are bad. I will not take responsibility for that, sorry.
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All anyone is asking is that we ALL take responsibility for what we post. No one is ever expected to take responsiblity for someone else's posts.
I think we can all learn something positive from all of the recent experiences in this forum.
Side note: We need that group hug smiley back.
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09-25-2007, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by allgirls
I haven't been reading in the soul searching as much as I used to so I'm not sure which threads your referring to. I don't think u need to be PC. But I think u also need to expect a wide range of opinions. some will agree with you some won't.
I also agree with Chirsty, not why Blessed_with_6 left.
allgirls
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I didn't really know what happened but she seemed like a really nice person.
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09-25-2007, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Amber03
I was not trying to put anyone down I was stating how there are good people who are Muslim and than a women got on a kick about how they are killers and on and on. I just was saying that yes there may be things that I don't agree with in other religions. My point was I may not agree with some of their beliefs and they may not agree with some of mine either. I did not say their whole religion was wrong because that is not for me to say, I don't think that anyway. Anybody that has a relationship with God and Jesus are saved.
If you read back, I told her a took a cultural diversity class which did not tell us that they were all killers and terrorists. I cannot be responsible for how others respond. I have relatives of all different religions and backgrounds and I love them all. So, I was not expecting someone to write a lengthy ode to why Muslim's are bad. I will not take responsibility for that, sorry.
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I don't think anyone was putting that whole "bad muslim" post on you. If someone did, I missed it. For me, it's more the commentary about non-believers, feeling sad for us, or that we keep posting. But it's not like I hate you or don't want you to post or anything. I have to say that in reading this quote, above, you say that "anybody that has a relationship w/ God and Jesus are saved." I would have no problem with that if you preceeded it with "I believe" - as then it is a statement of faith. How you wrote it, however, you claim it as a fact. And it is not a fact. Not a proven fact - adherents of Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, etc. all keep faithful to their religions which do not hold that belief. None of us know for certain which if any is true. That's why it's faith. And I think the WAY you write, like that example, is what's tripping you up. And it's lines like that that keep me posting. Oh - and I didn't know Blessed with 6 left.
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09-25-2007, 03:08 PM
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Mommysavers Goddess
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I havent read any of the other repsonses.. but all I can say.. is just be careful where and what you post. There is a reason I NEVER post in this forum... my beliefs would start SOOOOO many fights.. and so much drama.. Im just not going to go there. This forum.. and politics... I just stay away!
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09-25-2007, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by calimari
Amber - there's no reason for you to go away. This is a discussion board - believe me, I have seen some arguments on this board and these threads you are talking about are nothing. You haven't offended me. I apparently offend christians all the time just by existing, but I've stopped caring about that several arguments ago (couple years) because I have as much a right to express my beliefs as you do yours. And I am VERY used to people here trying to tell me I'm wrong, praying for me, etc.
If your faith brings you peace, happiness, help to get through your day, positive thoughts to reflect on, support when you are low, that is a wonderful thing. Not everybody has someone or something to do that for them. Faith has never done that for me. We have had opposite life experiences - that is all. Don't waste time "feeling sad" for people who don't believe. We're happy! You believe - be happy!
I was in church the other day (it happens - it was a wedding) - and the pastor told a story about how you can choose to be happy. For instance - the car is totalled. You can be happy, or you can be sad, but either way the car is totalled. So you might as well be happy & not waste energy on being sad. So you go start a thread that will get responses from folks you want to hear from. Start something like "why do you love god" or "if you weren't christian before, what brought you to christianity". Something where non-believers would obviously not have anything to bring to the table.
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I am not upset that you are alive. O.k. deep down inside I probably like a little controversy it makes me feel alive and well. I don't feel sorry for you though, if that's what you mean. I didn't mean it like that, there are times I feel sad for myself. One thing I can say is that you are never boring  You are a smart person with some valid points and opinions. I don't have to agree with everything you say to talk to you, right. Just like you don't have to agree with everything I say. Honestly, I like you and think you bring some color and vibrancy to the forum. I just wanted to be able to have the best of both worlds. The section where I could talk to you and the section where I could regroup and talk to other believers so that I get stronger for my debates with you. I can learn things from you and from other believers. I don't like hurting others feelings though, most of the time I don't really mean to and other times I may get a little agitated.
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09-25-2007, 03:32 PM
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EMBER! I was wondering why you didn't pop in here!
Amber - I have to not be boring in my spare time because my job is so incessantly dull I would explode if I didn't have a real life somewhere.  And, no, you need not agree w/ me to talk to me. I have actually had run ins with several xtians on this board which have ended up with interesting emails back and forth and PMs back and forth and then they come to the realiziation (SHOCK!) that we have more in common than they expected. I never set out to hurt someone's feelings and I put a lot of time into wording things to avoid that. But, still, it seems to happen. My mind is very logical and analytical. I can and do poke holes to make my point. Because, just like any woman here, I'm always right! Just ask my husband!
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09-25-2007, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by calimari
I don't think anyone was putting that whole "bad muslim" post on you. If someone did, I missed it. For me, it's more the commentary about non-believers, feeling sad for us, or that we keep posting. But it's not like I hate you or don't want you to post or anything. I have to say that in reading this quote, above, you say that "anybody that has a relationship w/ God and Jesus are saved." I would have no problem with that if you preceeded it with "I believe" - as then it is a statement of faith. How you wrote it, however, you claim it as a fact. And it is not a fact. Not a proven fact - adherents of Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, etc. all keep faithful to their religions which do not hold that belief. None of us know for certain which if any is true. That's why it's faith. And I think the WAY you write, like that example, is what's tripping you up. And it's lines like that that keep me posting. Oh - and I didn't know Blessed with 6 left.
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No, Booker was talking about how I had something to do with putting down Muslims. You are right I should have put IMHO after that statement. I have already gotten a little upset over a friend at church who said something about Jehovah Witnesses not being saved or something. Which I said that is not for me to decide. Plus, my granddad was one and has passed on so it hit close to home. Because we do not know others hearts only God does. I guess Jewish folks are changing their religion a bit and excepting Christ. But you can't put Buddhists in there because they don't believe in God at all. But I have to believe that statement because that is how it is written in the Bible. I know you don't believe it but I goes hand in hand with religion.
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09-25-2007, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EmberNevill
I havent read any of the other repsonses.. but all I can say.. is just be careful where and what you post. There is a reason I NEVER post in this forum... my beliefs would start SOOOOO many fights.. and so much drama.. Im just not going to go there. This forum.. and politics... I just stay away!
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You are very smart
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