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09-18-2007, 10:17 PM
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Is Global Warming Just A Bunch Of "Hype"?
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Mommysavers Goddess
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I read a comment recently questioning whether or not global warming wasn't just a bunch of "hype". This person thought that global warming was being exaggerated by politicians (and the big corporations that fund them) in order to get votes, and make money. They also said that there was "big money" in "green", and that it's all just scare tactics being used to push people into abandoning their old ways, and buying new. (I suppose they mean buying new energy-efficiant appliances? Or lightbulbs? Or electric cars? Not sure...) This person also felt that a majority of us are "hopelessly buying into it all", and being "naive and gullible".
What do you think?? Is global warming REAL? Or do you think it's all a money-making scheme?
(And just for the record, I absolutely believe that global warming is real, and I do not think it's just a ploy to get us all to buy new appliances  , etc.)
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09-18-2007, 10:20 PM
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It is definitely real.
I would recommend that everyone watch the movie An Inconvienent Truth. It is such an excellent movie!!!!
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09-18-2007, 10:53 PM
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Mommysavers Goddess
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I signed up for a free copy of that DVD...never got it.
I've been wanting to see it, though!! I've heard it's great!!
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09-19-2007, 05:44 AM
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I'm not sure if I believe COMPLETELY in Global Warming, but I DO believe COMPLETELY in the carbon emissions, pollution and other dangers (I saw Inconvenient Truth, excellent). Like Gore said in the end - I don't have to believe what he is saying, but does it really hurt to "clean up my act"? Nope. I'm not sure we are getting warmer, or colder, but we are destroying the balance. How can we keep reproducing and creating more CO2, and then keep killing the plants and cutting down trees - how will that CO2 continue to be turned into O2 for us to breathe?
I worked in an environmental laboratory, testing water, soil and air for pollutants. What I saw scares me. I'm not sure there really is much hope for us - a cancer cure? We need it because all we are doing is just pumping cancer causing agents into the environment. Why not stop those in the beginning, instead of dealing with the end product (cancer)? Ain't going to happen.
I've known 3 people in the little town 'next door' that have died of cancer. They were in their 30's. They all worked in the same shop. Tell me there isn't a coincidence there. The shop is still running.
I worked with dangerous chemicals, and of course, all the pollutants in the environment, concentrated and handled by me. I started having serious complications with MY body at 16 weeks in my pregnancy. Things that are controlled by hormones and chemicals in my body. Tell me there isn't a coincidence there.
Global Warming *may* be the end product of a dangerous set of actions. I'm not sure. I am sure the actions are what need to be treated. The end result either way, global warming or not, is not going to be good.
As for politicians....they talk the talk to get votes. Those big dogs don't walk the walk though...that is impossible. You can't travel the world and give speeches in huge halls, or live a simple, green life if you are trying to be the next big kahuna. Buying carbon credits is like thinking alms to a church will save your soul. Not quite.
As for spending money, I'm not quite getting that. How is me buying $5 in seeds and planting them by hand, and fertilizing with compost getting me to spend more? How is me trying to not have every light in the house on so my electric bill is less making me stupid?
I bet its some car dealer with too many Hummers on the lot! :D
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09-19-2007, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by booker81
I'm not sure if I believe COMPLETELY in Global Warming, but I DO believe COMPLETELY in the carbon emissions, pollution and other dangers (I saw Inconvenient Truth, excellent). Like Gore said in the end - I don't have to believe what he is saying, but does it really hurt to "clean up my act"? Nope. I'm not sure we are getting warmer, or colder, but we are destroying the balance. How can we keep reproducing and creating more CO2, and then keep killing the plants and cutting down trees - how will that CO2 continue to be turned into O2 for us to breathe?
I worked in an environmental laboratory, testing water, soil and air for pollutants. What I saw scares me. I'm not sure there really is much hope for us - a cancer cure? We need it because all we are doing is just pumping cancer causing agents into the environment. Why not stop those in the beginning, instead of dealing with the end product (cancer)? Ain't going to happen.
I've known 3 people in the little town 'next door' that have died of cancer. They were in their 30's. They all worked in the same shop. Tell me there isn't a coincidence there. The shop is still running.
I worked with dangerous chemicals, and of course, all the pollutants in the environment, concentrated and handled by me. I started having serious complications with MY body at 16 weeks in my pregnancy. Things that are controlled by hormones and chemicals in my body. Tell me there isn't a coincidence there.
Global Warming *may* be the end product of a dangerous set of actions. I'm not sure. I am sure the actions are what need to be treated. The end result either way, global warming or not, is not going to be good.
As for politicians....they talk the talk to get votes. Those big dogs don't walk the walk though...that is impossible. You can't travel the world and give speeches in huge halls, or live a simple, green life if you are trying to be the next big kahuna. Buying carbon credits is like thinking alms to a church will save your soul. Not quite.
As for spending money, I'm not quite getting that. How is me buying $5 in seeds and planting them by hand, and fertilizing with compost getting me to spend more? How is me trying to not have every light in the house on so my electric bill is less making me stupid?
I bet its some car dealer with too many Hummers on the lot! :D
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I agree with almost all of this post!! Somethings are happening here in our world, that solely are because of our actions. As a person who actually studied the production of bad ozone and how it depletes our good ozone, it's obvious that it's because of most of our emissions/pollutants, etc. I don't know why some people can't SEE what they are doing to our atmosphere and our land/water. It shouldn't take a movie to make that obvious, yet STILL some people don't see! I think it's those people who think it's a bunch of hype, that are being naive and gullible.
I work in a chemical plant, and in the department that deals with pressure relief of vessels, pipelines, etc. We are trying to go through the plant, right now, to make sure that all our valves that relief pressure (to prevent explosions) aren't relieving bad things (hydrocarbons, etc.) into the atmosphere. It's shocking which ones are currently in relief to the atmosphere and which aren't, and since the EPA is stepping up their game, so are we. Are major corporations solely doing such things like this, just because the EPA has stricter guidelines these days?? Maybe. But I see it as my goal in life to make sure that's not the only reason, and that we all take our community's health into consideration too.
Global warming (and global dimming) are real, and are harmful, and more people should see it.
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09-19-2007, 09:53 AM
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There are some things you cannot deny no matter which side of the fence you are on. We are polluting our environment (hello! Ozone Action Days, anyone?). If we continue living in a disposable world, we are going to run out of room to dispose. Then what?
Green may very well be a great marketing ploy for lots of products (think green cleaning products when baking soda and/or vinegar would work just as well). But I don't think that this much hype could be created by appliance manufacturers to get you to buy a new washer when you don't need one.
Nature strives for balance. We have seriously upset that balance.
 n my soapbox: Ok, I'm done.
My husband and I have this arguement all the time. He thinks it's all hype or if it is real that it's too late for us to do anything anyway so we might as well keep doing whatever it is we are doing. Grrrrrrrrrrr!
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09-19-2007, 11:23 AM
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Global warming is real, but will the environment balance it out, as it historically has? Or will man interfere with nature?
I also, however, think it's hyped for all the reasons stated above. The problem is, when you have someone like Gore (and he's not the only one, just an example) use inaccurate data, and the cover is blown, it takes away from what is actually true. It's like they think the facts are boring, so they have to exaggerate. So is it as bad as "they" say? Is there unbiased data interesting enough and simple enough for a layperson to understand?
And I truly think many companies, including the car companies, are using it as an excuse to charge more.
By the way, years ago I worked for a printer. One of our accounts was the state. Their specs said that everything had to be on recycled paper. Well, first of all, recycled paper was more expensive. So, the company used first run paper. The state unofficially approved it (in writing). But the symbol and the statement that the paper was recycled still was on each booklet. They felt it was OK since the paper would be recycled after use. How often does this happen day-to-day?
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09-19-2007, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvMySoldier
I read a comment recently questioning whether or not global warming wasn't just a bunch of "hype". This person thought that global warming was being exaggerated by politicians (and the big corporations that fund them) in order to get votes, and make money. They also said that there was "big money" in "green", and that it's all just scare tactics being used to push people into abandoning their old ways, and buying new. (I suppose they mean buying new energy-efficiant appliances? Or lightbulbs? Or electric cars? Not sure...) This person also felt that a majority of us are "hopelessly buying into it all", and being "naive and gullible".
What do you think?? Is global warming REAL? Or do you think it's all a money-making scheme?
(And just for the record, I absolutely believe that global warming is real, and I do not think it's just a ploy to get us all to buy new appliances  , etc.)
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It is real and it seems that person is in denial, plus they didn't take the environmental studies class that I did which was a major topic discussed. Polar bears are dying off because of ice caps melting and you can see other signs all around. Using all the harmful chemicals and emissions throughout generations has had a major impact on the earth. I think it is great that the government is finally trying to do something about it as long as they realize that talk is cheap. We only have one Earth.
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09-19-2007, 12:26 PM
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I think it is though I have heard the reasons some people believe it isn't. Either way things are changing with the weather. I can tell one that from my 36 years!
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09-19-2007, 01:02 PM
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Yes I believe we are undergoing climate change. This happens every so often. Case in point. The middle east used to be lush and green, now more desert than green. Greenland used to be green now it is covered in ice, and Iceland used to be covered in ice but is now green. Go figure. As for the polar icecaps melting, yes in some areas they are, but in other areas they are getting thicker. Some of you may not remember or weren't around then, but in the 70's scientists were saying we were headed for a new iceage because the earth was getting colder. That was even before all of the regulation of pollution output. It is all a part of climate change. Do we need to be concerned about pollution? Yes we should. Should we be more environmentally conscious? Yes as well. As for Mr Gore, well.....okay moving on. Unfortunately IF global warming is true, the little things they tell us to do (using florecent bulbs, less gas, walk to where ever you are going, straw houses, etc) won't solve it. It is a drop in the bucket even if we all did it. I walk where I can, because it is good for my waist and my wallet, I grow my own produce because it saves me money. My bottom line is my motivation. If we really want to impact the environment, we would each become an autonomous individual( or family) providing everything for ourselves, we would be entirely vegan because it is cows that provide a good portion of greenhouse gases, no cars at all or buying things, because it would cost too much to ship them around the country, no planes etc, oh and no breathing, it produces CO2. And quite honestly, as long as China(the largest producer of greenhouse gases )is unwilling to change, nothing will be resolved in the long run. I am a Christian and as such I believe we need to be good stewards of what we are given, but God will return when He wants regardless of Global warming. Now, please don't hurt me...... 
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