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04-08-2008, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rosemary
I have a "Kitchen Mill" bought from the Urban Homemaker. I've had it since October 2007 and love using it. I buy my grains in bulk from BreadBeckers.com. I joined a co-op group which saves TONS of money in shipping. I couldn't afford to do it if I had to have my grains shipped directly to me.
I make 4 loaves of hard red wheat bread usually twice a month. I also use it to make homemade pancakes, waffles, muffins, french bread, focaccia, sweet breads & cinnamon rolls. I have not conquered it yet for biscuits. I still buy the White Lilly unbleached self-rising flour for them b/c I don't like baking powder biscuits and the biscuits just seemed too "heavy" with the freshly milled flour. I need to experiment with rye, millet, spelt and the beans. I have the grains to do it but haven't branched out enough yet. I would love to keep up conversations about it, b/c I don't hardly know anyone that does this! So good to meet y'all!
BTW, Jenny, don't feel bad, it's easy to get them all confused. I know how pregnancy brain is b/c I breastfed both of my children for one year each and I think they took all of my brain cells!!
Anyway, the hard red wheat is the most "rich" of all, the most wheat taste, texture, darkest ,etc. (my personal fav.) Can be used in yeast or non-yeast recipes.
hard white wheat is just lighter is texture, flavor and color and can be used in yeast or non-yeast recipes.
The soft white cannot be used in yeast breads. I use it for pancakes and waffles. I haven't gotten it just right to use in cookies yet.
Sorry for such a long post.... Have a great night!
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I checked breadbeckers for pricing, and it says $39 for 45 lb of hard white grains. Retail Price List from The Bread Beckers, Inc.
I noticed that if you get it via co-op, you get 5% off that price. That price doesn't include shipping, right? With the discount, that makes it $0.82/lb. I'm just worried that it costs more than the flour I get at the store. It is much healthier, which is making me lean more towards it. I'm just wishing it was a bit cheaper.
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04-09-2008, 01:10 AM
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Last Online: 10-29-2008 10:05 AM
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Check out Welcome to Walton Feed, home of your dehydrated food storage needs. for wheat. They have 50 lbs of hard red wheat in a bag for $23.50. This comes to .47 cents a lb. You do have to add shipping to this. You can also buy in 25 lb bags for $15.75, which comes to .63 cents a lb.
I would also check out your local food co-op. I get mine from our food co-op for .53 cents/lb. I make a bread out of sprouted wheat berries, so it isn't ground in a grain mill. Just needs a food processor, since the berries are wet when you need to make them into the dough.
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04-09-2008, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mbell0817
I checked breadbeckers for pricing, and it says $39 for 45 lb of hard white grains. Retail Price List from The Bread Beckers, Inc.
I noticed that if you get it via co-op, you get 5% off that price. That price doesn't include shipping, right? With the discount, that makes it $0.82/lb. I'm just worried that it costs more than the flour I get at the store. It is much healthier, which is making me lean more towards it. I'm just wishing it was a bit cheaper.
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If you do get it via a co-op group, the shipping is amazing b/c Brad Becker himself makes the co-op loops in their truck and delivers it. It varies from time to time, depending upon how much the group orders, but this last time shipping was only about .10 per pound. I hope that gives you a better idea.
I just saw the tag line by your name.I am slow about these things. God bless your family....
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04-09-2008, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by vioburn
Check out Welcome to Walton Feed, home of your dehydrated food storage needs. for wheat. They have 50 lbs of hard red wheat in a bag for $23.50. This comes to .47 cents a lb. You do have to add shipping to this. You can also buy in 25 lb bags for $15.75, which comes to .63 cents a lb.
I would also check out your local food co-op. I get mine from our food co-op for .53 cents/lb. I make a bread out of sprouted wheat berries, so it isn't ground in a grain mill. Just needs a food processor, since the berries are wet when you need to make them into the dough.
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Thanks! I don't know of any local food co-op. Hmm..I will google it. I do know that breadbeckers has a stop in my town. I will check out walton feed, too - thanks!
I love the idea of not getting a mill. I love my food processor and would love to use it for this.
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04-10-2008, 12:04 PM
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You're welcome.
The only reason I don't use a grain mill is because I am making a yeast free bread that uses soaked grains. If you are making a yeast, rising bread, you would probably need to have a grain mill to mill the dry grain before you begin.
The recipe I use is for Manna bread:
2 cups dry wheat berries
1 cup grated carrots
1 cup raisins
Sprout the wheat berries to about 1/2" to 3/4", which should take 1 1/2 - 2 days, depending.
Process sprouted berries in a food processor until they become a paste. In a large bowl, combine wheat berry paste, carrots and raisins and mix well. I found using my hands works best. Preheat oven to 200 degrees. Bake 2 - 2 1/2 hours at 200. This is really just drying the bread, not really baking it, so you need to store your bread in the fridge or freezer.
We like it best when it is sliced and toasted in a toaster oven. It won't work in a regular toaster, so you could probably toast under the broiler in your oven, if you needed.
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04-10-2008, 01:59 PM
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Last Online: Yesterday 09:22 PM
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I'm actually sitting here with paper and pen, taking notes as I read through this thread! So much helpful, inspiring advice! Thanks.
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04-10-2008, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by vioburn
You're welcome.
The only reason I don't use a grain mill is because I am making a yeast free bread that uses soaked grains. If you are making a yeast, rising bread, you would probably need to have a grain mill to mill the dry grain before you begin.
The recipe I use is for Manna bread:
2 cups dry wheat berries
1 cup grated carrots
1 cup raisins
Sprout the wheat berries to about 1/2" to 3/4", which should take 1 1/2 - 2 days, depending.
Process sprouted berries in a food processor until they become a paste. In a large bowl, combine wheat berry paste, carrots and raisins and mix well. I found using my hands works best. Preheat oven to 200 degrees. Bake 2 - 2 1/2 hours at 200. This is really just drying the bread, not really baking it, so you need to store your bread in the fridge or freezer.
We like it best when it is sliced and toasted in a toaster oven. It won't work in a regular toaster, so you could probably toast under the broiler in your oven, if you needed.
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Yum, yum!! Thank you so much for sharing that recipe.
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04-13-2008, 07:31 PM
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