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Old 04-30-2008, 02:53 AM   #1
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I was reading yahoo earlier and this article caught my attention.

Americans unload prized belongings to make ends meet
By ANNE D'INNOCENZIO, AP Business Writer
Tue Apr 29, 6:04 PM ET



NEW YORK - The for-sale listings on the online hub Craigslist come with plaintive notices, like the one from the teenager in Georgia who said her mother lost her job and pleaded, "Please buy anything you can to help out."

Or the seller in Milwaukee who wrote in one post of needing to pay bills — and put a diamond engagement ring up for bids to do it.

Struggling with mounting debt and rising prices, faced with the toughest economic times since the early 1990s, Americans are selling prized possessions online and at flea markets at alarming rates.

To meet higher gas, food and prescription drug bills, they are selling off grandmother's dishes and their own belongings. Some of the household purging has been extremely painful — families forced to part with heirlooms.

"This is not about downsizing. It's about needing gas money," said Nancy Baughman, founder of eBizAuctions, an online auction service she runs out of her garage in Raleigh, N.C. One former affluent customer is now unemployed and had to unload Hermes leather jackets and Versace jeans and silk shirts.

At Craigslist, which has become a kind of online flea market for the world, the number of for-sale listings has soared 70 percent since last July. In March, the number of listings more than doubled to almost 15 million from the year-ago period.

Craigslist CEO Jeff Buckmaster acknowledged the increasing popularity of selling all sort of items on the Web, but said the rate of growth is "moving above the usual trend line." He said he was amazed at the desperate tone in some ads.

In Daleville, Ala., Ellona Bateman-Lee has turned to eBay and flea markets to empty her three-bedroom mobile home of DVDs, VCRs, stereos and televisions.

She said she needs the cash to help pay for soaring food and utility bills and mounting health care expenses since her husband, Bob, suffered an electric shock on the job as a dump truck driver in 2006 and is now disabled.

Among her most painful sales: her grandmother's teakettle. She sold it for $6 on eBay.

"My grandmother raised me, so it hurt," she said. "We've had bouts here and there, but we always got by. This time it's different."

Economists say it is difficult to compare the selling trend with other tough times because the Internet, only in wide use since the mid-1990s, has made it much easier to unload goods than, say, at pawn shops.

But clearly, cash-strapped people are selling their belongings at bargain prices, with a flood of listings for secondhand cars, clothing and furniture hitting the market in recent months, particularly since January.

Earlier this decade, people tapped their inflated home equity and credit cards to fuel a buying binge. Now, slumping home values and a credit crisis have sapped sources of cash.

Meanwhile, soaring gas and food prices haven't kept pace with meager wage growth. Gas prices have already hit $4 per gallon in some places, and that could become more widespread this summer. The weakening job market is another big worry.

Christine Hadley, a 53-year-old registered nurse from Reading, Pa., says she used to be "a clotheshorse," splurging on pricey Dooney & Bourke handbags. But her live-in boyfriend left last year, and she has had trouble finding a job.

Piles of unpaid bills forced her to sell more than 80 items, including the handbags, which went for more than $1,000 on a site called AuctionPal.com. Now, except for some artwork and threadbare furniture, her house is looking sparse.

"I need the money for essentials — to pay my bills and to eat," Hadley said.

At AuctionPal.com, which helps novices sell things online, for-sale listings rose 66 percent from February to March, much faster than the 25 percent to 30 percent average monthly pace since the company was formed in September, CEO Maureen Ellenberger said. She said she was surprised to see that most of her clients desperately needed to sell items to raise cash.

For LiveDeal.com, a classifieds and business directory site, for-sale listings for January through March rose 10 percent from the previous year.

"We can definitely detect economic stress on the part of the consumer," said John Raven, the site's chief operating officer.

On Craigslist, Buckmaster said, three of the four fastest-growing for-sale categories are tied to gas — recreational vehicles like campers and trailers, cars and trucks, and boats.

Raven noted more and more listings for furniture, particularly in areas around Miami and Las Vegas and other regions hardest hit by the housing crisis.

Baughman, who runs eBizAuctions, said that over the past four months she's been working with mostly desperate sellers instead of mainly casual ones. Most are middle-class customers who can't pay their bills and now want to be paid up front for the items instead of waiting until they are sold, she said.

The trend may be hurting secondhand stores too. Donations to the Salvation Army were down 20 percent in the January-to-March period. George Hood, the charity's national community relations and development secretary, said that was probably partly because people were selling their belongings instead.

And secondhand buyers want better deals now as well, driving prices down. Secondhand merchandise online is going for 25 to 35 percent below what it commanded a year ago, estimated Brian Riley, senior analyst at research firm The TowerGroup.

"It won't hit the saturation point until the (economy) hits the bottom and right now, we don't know when that is," he said.

In Alabama, Bateman-Lee said that she only received $30 for her TV and $45 for her DVD player at a local flea market. She doesn't have too much left to sell, but she's going back to "sort through more things."

Her $30 water bill is due this week.
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Old 04-30-2008, 07:44 AM   #2
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I have trouble reading articles like this. I mean, it talks about the "clotheshorse" nurse, who's boyfriend left and she had trouble finding a job and had to sell over 80 of her items. Sad story, sure, but some of those items that she sold was her Dooney & Bourke handbag that, if I am reading the article correctly, she sold for $1000.00 used! How much did she pay for that thing to begin with? Used, that purchase is the same amount as my monthly mortage. I guess I have a hard time feeling bad for someone that is walking around with a couple of purses that cost more than my car.
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:28 AM   #3
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yeh i think times are tough out there and people have been living way beyound there means in the "gotta have it society" and now its crunch time. the thing that sucks is when you have gotten to the bare minimums and there is no where else to turn thats when its really gonna get tough for some.
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Old 04-30-2008, 09:21 AM   #4
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I have trouble reading articles like this. I mean, it talks about the "clotheshorse" nurse, who's boyfriend left and she had trouble finding a job and had to sell over 80 of her items. Sad story, sure, but some of those items that she sold was her Dooney & Bourke handbag that, if I am reading the article correctly, she sold for $1000.00 used! How much did she pay for that thing to begin with? Used, that purchase is the same amount as my monthly mortage. I guess I have a hard time feeling bad for someone that is walking around with a couple of purses that cost more than my car.
I see your point about the expensive handbag but maybe it was purchased when finances were good and she could afford it; you never know. If she charged it, well...that was just plain dumb.

Personally, if I had an extra thousand laying around I wouldn't be spending it on a purse, though. It would go toward something more permanent like furniture or something. Or, I'd save it.
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:25 PM   #5
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It sounded like she got $1000 for all her handbags/stuff, not just that one bag. But even still, sell all my purses and you might get $100 LOL I was never that wasteful anyway!
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I think a serious recession is upon us within the next year, unless something changes drastically.
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Hopefully people will learn from this.
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